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Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« on: December 14, 2015, 11:12:27 AM »

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 01:52:59 PM »
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The bottom line is that it is not WHERE you spend Christmas that makes it special, but WHO you spend it with.

That is so very true.



Do keep in mind that Vegas might be more crowded than one would have thought. Two years ago I was dumb enough to spend two free nights at Caesar's Palace on Christmas eve and day. Dumb because I could have used the coupon anytime in December. Silly me thought that Christmas would be relatively quiet, what with everyone spending it with their relatives. I forgot that there's a big round world out there, and a lot of it doesn't give a crap about Jesus.

Caesar's was sold out. Totally sold out. I was checking in through the 7-stars area and the valet didn't even want to park my car until I told him I wouldn't be needing it for two days. There was a wait at the VIP check in desk. No need to slip a $20 for anything since there were no extra rooms to bribe oneself into. The Bacchanal was so full that they stopped allowing people to sign in for the wait at the kiosks by 5:30pm for their final 10pm "beeping." The rest of the restaurants had three hour waits or longer. I ended up in the Forum Shoppes at the Cheesecake Factory -- and I got lucky and was seated within 30 minutes because I was alone and a small table opened up.

So who filled Caesar's on December 25th? One might have guessed the Chinese, because they love to gamble and aren't Christian -- but one would have been wrong. It was the Japanese. Yup. The entire hotel and casino was filled with Japanese tourists.

So before you think about spending Christmas here, you might want to check to see how full your hotel of choice is. Just a thought.
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If you place a statistician's head in dry ice and his feet in boiling water, then on the average he is fairly comfortable but his comfort has a large variance.

Most people have more than the average number of legs.

Just call me the "quad kickers" of deuces wild and double bonus poker.

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2015, 08:27:41 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions.
I hope to try it someday...Christmas or New Years, just to see. :D

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2015, 08:32:31 PM »


Do keep in mind that Vegas might be more crowded than one would have thought. Two years ago I was dumb enough to spend two free nights at Caesar's Palace on Christmas eve and day. Dumb because I could have used the coupon anytime in December. Silly me thought that Christmas would be relatively quiet, what with everyone spending it with their relatives. I forgot that there's a big round world out there, and a lot of it doesn't give a crap about Jesus.

Caesar's was sold out. Totally sold out. I was checking in through the 7-stars area and the valet didn't even want to park my car until I told him I wouldn't be needing it for two days. There was a wait at the VIP check in desk. No need to slip a $20 for anything since there were no extra rooms to bribe oneself into. The Bacchanal was so full that they stopped allowing people to sign in for the wait at the kiosks by 5:30pm for their final 10pm "beeping." The rest of the restaurants had three hour waits or longer. I ended up in the Forum Shoppes at the Cheesecake Factory -- and I got lucky and was seated within 30 minutes because I was alone and a small table opened up.

So who filled Caesar's on December 25th? One might have guessed the Chinese, because they love to gamble and aren't Christian -- but one would have been wrong. It was the Japanese. Yup. The entire hotel and casino was filled with Japanese tourists.

So before you think about spending Christmas here, you might want to check to see how full your hotel of choice is. Just a thought.


As someone who typically arrives two weeks before Christmas and gets out right after Christmas, I can back up that the town fills up at Christmas. It usually starts on Christmas Eve.  Although the day of the week can make it better or worse.

Seeing all families in hotel lobbies and screaming kids and gobs of luggage left in the middle of walkways and 8934374327847 people having to stand in line together for one reservation and UGH I need to stop thinking about it because I am beginning to choke on the memories of these people sucking up my oxygen.

Side note, I checked into Four Queens last Christmas and there were zero people checking in except for me.  That was pure bliss, and an extreme rarity.

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2015, 05:01:29 AM »
... or New Years, just to see. :D

These days I'd avoid NYE as well unless you're willing to spend the bucks to attend a club party. Then you can have a nice view away from the crush. Book your room in the same hotel as your club of choice unless you don't intend on leaving before about 3am or so. I'm sure you know just how expensive the rooms and clubs are for NYE.

I've done NYE on the strip twice. The first time was NYE 1999 and I had a blast!! I flew in at 22:30 on a last minute standby ticket I purchased at the airport after work with no room reservation and no bags. I had the limo "bus" driver drop me off around Koval when he got stuck in traffic, walked to the strip, partied all night long, called for the limo "bus" to pick me up around 6am, flew home on 1/1 early in the morning and was home in bed by 9am. It was one of the best times I've ever had. To top it off, I won the airfare back at the blackjack table in 10 minutes just after arriving and then got to drinking and partying. I even won another hundred or so playing some slot machines in the early morning hours.

The second was NYE 2013. It wasn't that fun and was awful after midnight.

The biggest difference is that back then the entire street was closed to traffic but was open to pedestrians, so there was a party atmosphere. People found spots and celebrated. The casinos didn't close their doors so it was easy to go back inside before and after the midnight festivities. The crowds didn't push and cram because there was plenty of space with no blockade in the middle of the street and because the casino's weren't denying entry.

Now they put a police barricade down the middle of LVB for cops on horseback and for ambulances. I understand the reasoning but it makes it impossible to "cross" the strip anywhere but the standard street corners, effectively making the street just an extension of the sidewalks, and it takes its toll. People were mostly walking "somewhere," mostly northbound on the east side and southbound on the west. There were people standing in the intersections but it wasn't nearly as festive. Most were groups who kept to themselves. The casinos don't help as they now close their doors to interlopers at about 23:30 or possibly 23:00,  if I remember correctly. I think they'll let people in with player's cards so be sure to carry all of them with you. They may even be more restrictive (room keys or higher level cards) in those minutes before midnight.

The party atmosphere just wasn't really there, except from just a few minutes before through a just a few minutes after midnight. Afterwards, it was hell trying to get back to a monorail station. The crowd was too thick and at times I was forced to move with the herd against my will. Not fun. The wait at the monorail station was about 2 hours but fortunately I was behind some nice folks who liked chatting as much as I so the time passed quickly. Again, the casinos made sure that the rabble herd did it's migrating outside their doors by denying entry to most.

It was most definitely NOT the Vegas New Years Eve of old.
If you place a statistician's head in dry ice and his feet in boiling water, then on the average he is fairly comfortable but his comfort has a large variance.

Most people have more than the average number of legs.

Just call me the "quad kickers" of deuces wild and double bonus poker.

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2015, 02:07:48 PM »
Would NYE at a non-Strip hotel be a reasonable alternative?  Or all those places jammed with locals who avoid the Strip?

fredo

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2015, 06:55:49 PM »
I think if I ever manage to do NYE I would do it downtown.

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2015, 08:11:54 PM »
I think if I ever manage to do NYE I would do it downtown.

That looks like my own personal hell. 

I have done the strip twice (north strip, riviera and sahara) where it was relatively empty outside.  Still a lot of people, but lots of open space. 

This year I am doing Henderson.

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2015, 04:25:43 PM »
I have done NYE at both ends of the trip, and Downtown.
Downtown has lots of live music and because of the canopy is slightly warmer.
You do have to buy a wristband though, otherwise you cannot cross Fremont - you have to exit the casinos through the rear and walk around to get to the other side.
If I ever did it again it would be downtown - with a wristband.  This year we will have NYE in Laughlin.


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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2015, 06:55:08 PM »
Lucky you!  Have fun!

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2015, 05:59:30 PM »
Thanks

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2015, 06:13:36 AM »
I haven't tried downtown but I suspect it's much better than the strip. They have live bands and while it will be crowded, it won't have a flow of traffic like the strip now has because of the barricades. It shouldn't have the after-midnight stampede, either.

The Silverton has their annual "Skip the Strip" NYE party. It's very inexpensive ($25) but I don't know if it's any good.
If you place a statistician's head in dry ice and his feet in boiling water, then on the average he is fairly comfortable but his comfort has a large variance.

Most people have more than the average number of legs.

Just call me the "quad kickers" of deuces wild and double bonus poker.

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2015, 01:39:20 PM »
I haven't tried downtown but I suspect it's much better than the strip. They have live bands and while it will be crowded, it won't have a flow of traffic like the strip now has because of the barricades. It shouldn't have the after-midnight stampede, either.
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Well, it looks like I'll find out how good or bad it is tonight. I wasn't going to do anything for NYE but at the last minute I asked a host at MSS and she said that parking is free for sapphires, emeralds and hotel guests (jacked to $20 otherwise) and that she had an FSE wristband with my name on it if I wanted it, so I wanted it. Because.

I'll also have my weekly free buffet ticket from yesterday's Young at Heart promo. Free parking. Free dinner with line pass. Free party with tribute bands from my generation with no Millennials' music to be found. Cool. Paying refill price for giant frozen drink on FSE because I always have a washed, empty giant frozen drink thingie in my trunk for just such an occasion? Almost priceless. :tongue:

I'm hoping that with the MSS parking lot being located on the upper east side (of FSE, not Manhattan) and a block away that getting out via Main street eastbound under the freeway towards Bonanza won't be too much of a PITA. If not, I can always sleep for a while at my favorite slant top.
If you place a statistician's head in dry ice and his feet in boiling water, then on the average he is fairly comfortable but his comfort has a large variance.

Most people have more than the average number of legs.

Just call me the "quad kickers" of deuces wild and double bonus poker.

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2015, 05:17:31 PM »
Go have a wonderful time.  And tell us all about it, so we can all know what we are missing.
                             

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Re: Vegas For The Holidays? Hmmm
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2016, 01:33:23 PM »
I've been to LV for xmas a few times, but not NYE. One of the best trips started xmas eve with my brother dropping me at the airport after the family get together. I was staying with friends this trip, starting with a great party that night. Sue outdid herself with decorations and food. A good time was had by all.

Bob works at a private golf club and opens for members and guests each xmas as a courtesy. The members take good care of him and this is his way of returning the favors. He said to pick him up about 2:30. I did a little shopping at the outlets and played some VP. When I got back he said it would be a while as more showed up than expected. I went and played a few holes, but he was still about a 1/2 hour from finishing, so I went to the range. It was about 60 so I was in shorts and a polo. I was very comfortable until the sun went behind the mtns and the temp dropped 15 degrees in no time. I waited for him in the warm SUV! We went home and had a great dinner that night.

The next day we went to Barleys for breakfast and football most of the day. That night I took them for dinner at Twin Creeks (Silverton). After dinner, we played for a few hours before heading home. The next morning Bob and I played golf at Red Rock, once again in shorts. You can't beat golf in shorts at xmas! Later on we had an early dinner before taking me to the airport.

This was one of my shortest trips, but definitely one of the best.

Good Luck!
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