"And please Bard, do not take offense......you have just written something that both of us can completely agree on! Who'd have thought that one day we could actually share an opinion?"
Fritz, the vast majority of my friends, including all of my fishing friends with whom I spend hundreds of hours in small boats, have a conservative outlook. When one of them says something political, I try to express agreement with whatever he says that is "wholly substantiated by facts," to quote another current thread. Otherwise, I try to say as little as possible.
It is bad to lose arguments with these guys, and much worse to win. These guys are and will remain my friends, and their feelings are hurt more easily than mine because most of them are true believers while I am mostly a skeptic.
I decided before the election of 2012 that it was pointless to discuss politics with true believers ON EITHER SIDE. It is the biggest reason that I have been using the quote from Penn Jillette as my sig. What conclusions others make about how I think or feel is pretty much out of my control.